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Arroyo, Stubbs approaching dubious marks

Arroyo, Stubbs approaching dubious marks

Arroyo, Stubbs approaching dubious marks
CINCINNATI -- At their respective positions, Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo and center fielder Drew Stubbs are nearing statistical marks neither would like to see on their baseball cards.

Arroyo has a club record 44 home runs allowed after giving up four long balls in Friday's loss to the Brewers. Stubbs struck out twice Saturday to tie Adam Dunn's team record of 195 strikeouts, and he's five away from 200.

Reds manager Dusty Baker doesn't want either player to reach some infamous totals, but he has no plans to shelve either of them in a preventative effort.

"You're getting paid handsomely to work, not to not work," Baker said on Saturday.

With two starts remaining, Arroyo is tied with Jamie Moyer (2004) for fifth all-time in home runs allowed. Baker produced the top 10 list and noted several were Hall of Famers, including Major League record holder Bert Blyleven, who gave up 50 homers in 1986 and is also third all-time with a 46-homer season in '87. Robin Roberts (twice) and Phil Niekro are also among the leaders.

"The difference -- other than Jamie Moyer and Eric Milton -- is the innings some of these guys racked up while they were doing it," Baker said. "Robin Roberts had 305. Niekro had 342 when he gave up 41. Robin Roberts, again, had 297. Blyleven had 267 and 271."

Arroyo is currently at 182 innings pitched, and would need two complete games over his final two starts to continue his six-season streak of reaching at least 200 innings.

Stubbs leads the Major Leagues in strikeouts. While Mark Reynolds set the record with 223 strikeouts in 2009, Dunn established the Reds mark in '04. While it's unlikely Stubbs would catch Reynolds, 200 strikeouts is a memorable enough figure.

"You don't like that stat," Baker said. "Sometimes, you've got to hit the bottom or be close to the bottom in order to make some changes and try different things."

Baker planned on talking to Stubbs to suggest some ideas he could work on over the offseason.

"We've told him a lot of stuff this year," Baker said. "Sometimes, it's difficult to try different things during the season. You look at different ballplayers over the course of time, they're going to try stuff in order to be successful. Two guys come to mind -- Carl Yastrzemski and Cal Ripken Jr. These guys had 18 different stances."

Stubbs is hitting .247 with 37 stolen bases and 91 runs scored.

"The skill is there, big time," Baker said. "Sometimes it gets difficult for everybody to wait on that evolution or wait on that change, or when that beacon of lights comes on [as to] what to do and how to do it. It would be a tremendous thing if he got 40 stolen bases, hit .250 or more and scored 100. I find that quite remarkable for the struggles that he's had."

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